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Lauren

im asking cause i saw this comment on this blog：：

I agree with gbevers that it seems young children are doing more with hanja than college age students, and that the hanja proficency test may have a lot to do with it.

I strongly disagree with Antti if he means to imply that the potential confusion that can come with having several hanja-based words that are the same pronunciation has much if anything to do with the problem described in the OECD article.

To begin with, there is no reason to believe that native speakers of Korean are having a harder time gaining information from the things they read in their daily lives (and I’m talking about the OECD study) than they used to when hanja was common in South Korea.

IMHO the problem is a fundamental inability to write in a reader-oriented fashion and to think of how to write a good sentence. The state of the Korean sentence today is very poor, and every time I bring up the subject (one of my favorite) with other specialists in Korean language (at NAKL & elsewhere) they tend to agree.

Spend any day reading a newspaper or walking around a major city and you will find examples of things that could have or should have been written better.

If your native language is anything other than Korean, ask yourself how many times you have opened a newspaper in your language and read something that just didn’t make any sense gramatically? This is something that happens in Korea very, very often.

Take, for example, a recent column in the Hankyoreh by former Uni minister Lee Jong-seok.

http://www.hani.co.kr/arti/pol…

Try to make sense of the second sentence in the following quote:

한국 정부는 이번 6자 회담이 일정한 진전을 본다면 지체없이 남북관계를 전면적으로 복원할 필요가 있다고 본다. 북핵 실험이라는 극한적 국면에서는 상황 반전을 위해 남북관계의 운용에도 제약이 따르지만 그것은 어디까지나 잠정적이며 예외적이다. 기본적으로 핵문제와 남북관계의 진전이 서로 긍정적인 영향을 주는 선순환구조가 이루어질 때 한반도 정세가 안정되며, 우리의 외교역량도 비약적으로 제고된다.

That’s just poor writing, any way you look at it. Don’t feel bad about not being able to figure it out, either, because you’re not alone. See here:

http://djuna.cine21.com/bbs/vi…

There you have it, Korean netizens trying to make sense of this sentence: “북핵 실험이라는 극한적 국면에서는 상황 반전을 위해 남북관계의 운용에도 제약이 따르지만 그것은 어디까지나 잠정적이며 예외적이다.” It just can’t be done. You get a certain “feeling” about what he may have meant to say, but you can’t say for sure. The only reason netizens are talking about it is because it was by Lee Jong-seok, so if it had been a sentence in a letter from your local gucheong or such, it probably wouldn’t have been in public discussion.

I run into sentences like this several times a week. Remember that newspapers are proofread more than most other material and contemplate what that must mean for written Korean in other contexts (on the other hand personal correspondence, however poorly written, does not have the same problem because the two parties corresponding know a lot about each other and what is being discussed).

This is all just poor writing, period. There are many reasons for the general lack of ability to write a good sentence but I won’t discuss those here. At any rate, my point is that the inability of the Korean public to understand much of what it reads in the course of everyday life is a problem with sentence composition and the lack of an ability to write text that is not highly context dependent. It has nothing to do with hanja or hanja education. You could find very brief examples where using hanja could have helped with a single word, but there just isn’t any evidence that suggests the problem with written communication in Korean is because hanja isn’t used or because people don’t know enough hanja.

North Korea does not teach hanja and does not use it, yet writing from North Korea is usually much better than what we see in the South. I have found this to be the case and many NK watchers agree as well, as does, for that matter, any SKorean I know who has read material from the North.

For the record, I support hanja education and am pleased my 6 year old likes to learn it. But the argument by many proponents of better hanja education that the lack of the use and knowledge of hanja contributes to the lack of clarity in (South) Korean writing makes me wonder how well those proponents write themselves.
the site : http://www.rjkoehler.com/2007/03/15/han-jan-or-hanja/

i also ran into this. it seems interesting. ill have to read and see what the person says

http://books.google.com/books?id=9KT45cHAIdwC&pg=PA94&lpg=PA93&ots=4BvuS6aCEa&dq=poorly+written+sentences+korean&output=html_text